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We are in need of a faster Gateway. While our current Gateway (a [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+J4205+%40+1.50GHz&id=2877 Intel Pentium J4205] has an average passmark of 2442 (918 single) is more than powerful enough for our gigabit connection;  
We are in need of a faster Gateway. While our current Gateway (a [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+J4205+%40+1.50GHz&id=2877 Intel Pentium J4205] has an average passmark of 2442 (918 single) is more than powerful enough for our gigabit connection;  


just a single wireguard connection can easily spike the CPU usage to around 70%.  
just a single wireguard connection can easily spike the CPU usage to around 70%. We also want a smaller case (1U) so that we can have more space left in the rack.
 
 
We also want a smaller case (1U) so that we can have more space left in the rack.


= Notes =  
= Notes =  
* an 11th gen Intel i3-1115G4 could easily do wireguard at ~2GB/s so ideally we want to get a system just as powerful or more powerful.
* an 11th gen Intel i3-1115G4 (6158 passmark, 2665 single) could easily do wireguard at ~2GB/s so ideally we want to get a system just as powerful or more powerful.
* one option would be to move wireguard to Erratic instead, however that means that a remote reboot of Erratic will kill all connections.
* one option would be to move wireguard to Erratic instead, however that means that a remote reboot of Erratic will kill all connections.
* Right now we have an UniFi Dream Machine Pro on loan to test if we like it.
* Right now we have an UniFi Dream Machine Pro on loan to test if we like it.
* CPUs are compared using cpubenchmark.net, cpus should be faster than what we have now.
* CPUs are compared using cpubenchmark.net, cpus should be faster than what we have now.
= Needs =
The following things are what our new gateway should definitely have:
* More than one nic (2 or more)
* Replaceable ram and storage
* 1U case (although for motherboards we can put together or own 1U case)
* Low power usage
* Intel NICs
* Minimal VGA output
* No locked down cloud bullshittery
* Ideally opnsense


= Options =
= Options =
=== Bkhd 1U Server Intel Atom Quad Core C3558 6 Lan 2 Sfp + 10G ===
=== Bkhd 1U Server Intel Atom Quad Core C3558 6 Lan 2 Sfp + 10G ===


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Link: [https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005238535931.html? https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005238535931.html]
Link: [https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005238535931.html? https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005238535931.html]


Comes in a 1U case, can be figured with either a [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Atom+C3558+%40+2.20GHz&id=3129 4-core Intel C3558] (2417 passmark, 852 single) or a [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Atom+C3758+%40+2.20GHz&id=3696 8-core Intel C3758] (4750 passmark, 868 single). Has 6 lan ports and two SFP ports. See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3EMMYTdOYo
Comes in a 1U case, can be configured with either a [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Atom+C3558+%40+2.20GHz&id=3129 4-core Intel C3558] (2417 passmark, 852 single) or a [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Atom+C3758+%40+2.20GHz&id=3696 8-core Intel C3758] (4750 passmark, 868 single). Has 6 lan ports and two SFP ports. See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3EMMYTdOYo


According to the Youtube video it idles around 20w and would spike up to 25w under load. (4-core version)
According to the Youtube video it idles around 20w and would spike up to 25w under load. (4-core version)
4-core price (w/8GB ram & 8GB eMMC): €502,27
8-core price (w/8GB ram & 8GB eMMC): €610,80


<big>'''pros'''</big>
<big>'''pros'''</big>
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* Lots of lan ports
* Lots of lan ports
* Has two SFP ports
* Has two SFP ports
* The 8-core is about twice as fast as our J4205
* The 8-core is about twice as fast as our J4205 in multi-threading


<big>'''cons'''</big>
<big>'''cons'''</big>
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* China, so support could be icky (though we are a hackerspace)
* China, so support could be icky (though we are a hackerspace)
* No video out, only console.
* No video out, only console.
* Rather expensive. (Especially considering the performance)
=== Topton Intel I226 4x2.5G 11th gen i3-1115G4 ===
Link: https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005101103120.html
Configurable as [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-1115G4+%40+3.00GHz&id=3877 Core i3-1115G4] (6158 passmark, 2665 single), [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-1135G7+%40+2.40GHz&id=3830 Core i5-1135G7] (9939 passmark, 2709 single), [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-1165G7+%40+2.80GHz&id=3814 i7-1165G7] (10378 passmark, 2846 single). Priced are €237,69, €393,10, €466,23.
Known to work nicely with proxmox and opnsense (I226 passthrough works without any issue).
Also comes with a NVME slot and replaceable ram.
[[File:UkGZn5w.png|thumb]]
<big>'''pros'''</big>
* Good bang for buck.
* 4 lan ports, console port and video out.
* additional support for a 4/5G modem.
* Even the cheapest option has a faster single-core performance than our J4205 in multi
* Topton is a decent brand and their systems are often used for these applications.
* Has 4x2.5G nics
<big>'''cons'''</big>
* Runs a tad hot (imho - Melan)
* Not a rack mountable design, though system is fairly small itself.
=== Topton New Soft Router ===
[[File:New-Soft-Router.png|thumb]]
Link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006009250441.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2nld
A small mini-router that has a plectra of ports making it future proof, the default config is with 4x Intel 2.5gbe ports and it can be configured with either a extra 4 ports or 2 SFP+ ports. Meaning we could very easily plug-in directly from the XGPON. CPU wise, it has the following options:
[https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-8145U+%40+2.10GHz&id=3349 Intel Core i3-8145U] (3809 passmark, 2124 single) €354,78
[https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-10210U+%40+1.60GHz&id=3542 Intel Core i5-10210u] (6249, 2188 single) €423,76
[https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-10510U+%40+1.80GHz&id=3549 Intel Core i7-10510U] (6667, 2317 single) €443,46
Both the i5 and i7 are suiteable for our needs.
<big>'''pros'''</big>
* 2.5gbe and SFP+ makes it very future-proof
* Console port
* Topton
* i226v
<big>'''cons'''</big>
* Expensive
* Not a rack mountable design
* Highest 10th gen CPU is still very close to the 11th gen (even slower single core!?)
== New R86S-N Mini Router ==
[[File:rs86s-n.png|thumb]]
Link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005792590190.html
A even smaller router, that comes with a 3*2.5G ports and two 10G SFP+ ports as well as a 12th gen Alder Lake CPU. Configureable with either a Intel N100 or a Intel N305.
[https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+N100&id=5157 Intel N100] (5628, 1974 single) €442,63
[https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-N305&id=5213 Intel Core i3-N305] (10110, 2252 single) €623,02
<big>'''pros'''</big>
* 2.5gbe and SFP+ makes it very future-proof
* Small, low power consumption
* i226v
* Comes with 128GB MMC and 8GB ram, wi-fi 6
<big>'''cons'''</big>
* Very expensive for minimal peformance gain

Latest revision as of 17:30, 12 October 2023

Summary

We are in need of a faster Gateway. While our current Gateway (a Intel Pentium J4205 has an average passmark of 2442 (918 single) is more than powerful enough for our gigabit connection;

just a single wireguard connection can easily spike the CPU usage to around 70%. We also want a smaller case (1U) so that we can have more space left in the rack.

Notes

  • an 11th gen Intel i3-1115G4 (6158 passmark, 2665 single) could easily do wireguard at ~2GB/s so ideally we want to get a system just as powerful or more powerful.
  • one option would be to move wireguard to Erratic instead, however that means that a remote reboot of Erratic will kill all connections.
  • Right now we have an UniFi Dream Machine Pro on loan to test if we like it.
  • CPUs are compared using cpubenchmark.net, cpus should be faster than what we have now.

Needs

The following things are what our new gateway should definitely have:

  • More than one nic (2 or more)
  • Replaceable ram and storage
  • 1U case (although for motherboards we can put together or own 1U case)
  • Low power usage
  • Intel NICs
  • Minimal VGA output
  • No locked down cloud bullshittery
  • Ideally opnsense

Options

Bkhd 1U Server Intel Atom Quad Core C3558 6 Lan 2 Sfp + 10G

A1z3XuI.png

Link: https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005238535931.html

Comes in a 1U case, can be configured with either a 4-core Intel C3558 (2417 passmark, 852 single) or a 8-core Intel C3758 (4750 passmark, 868 single). Has 6 lan ports and two SFP ports. See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3EMMYTdOYo

According to the Youtube video it idles around 20w and would spike up to 25w under load. (4-core version)

4-core price (w/8GB ram & 8GB eMMC): €502,27

8-core price (w/8GB ram & 8GB eMMC): €610,80

pros

  • Comes as a 1U case
  • Seems to come with a 12v Meanwell PSU build-in
  • Lots of lan ports
  • Has two SFP ports
  • The 8-core is about twice as fast as our J4205 in multi-threading

cons

  • Slower than than our J4205 single core wise.
  • The 4-core version is slower
  • China, so support could be icky (though we are a hackerspace)
  • No video out, only console.
  • Rather expensive. (Especially considering the performance)

Topton Intel I226 4x2.5G 11th gen i3-1115G4

Link: https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005101103120.html

Configurable as Core i3-1115G4 (6158 passmark, 2665 single), Core i5-1135G7 (9939 passmark, 2709 single), i7-1165G7 (10378 passmark, 2846 single). Priced are €237,69, €393,10, €466,23.

Known to work nicely with proxmox and opnsense (I226 passthrough works without any issue). Also comes with a NVME slot and replaceable ram.

UkGZn5w.png

pros

  • Good bang for buck.
  • 4 lan ports, console port and video out.
  • additional support for a 4/5G modem.
  • Even the cheapest option has a faster single-core performance than our J4205 in multi
  • Topton is a decent brand and their systems are often used for these applications.
  • Has 4x2.5G nics

cons

  • Runs a tad hot (imho - Melan)
  • Not a rack mountable design, though system is fairly small itself.

Topton New Soft Router

New-Soft-Router.png

Link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006009250441.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2nld

A small mini-router that has a plectra of ports making it future proof, the default config is with 4x Intel 2.5gbe ports and it can be configured with either a extra 4 ports or 2 SFP+ ports. Meaning we could very easily plug-in directly from the XGPON. CPU wise, it has the following options:

Intel Core i3-8145U (3809 passmark, 2124 single) €354,78

Intel Core i5-10210u (6249, 2188 single) €423,76

Intel Core i7-10510U (6667, 2317 single) €443,46

Both the i5 and i7 are suiteable for our needs.

pros

  • 2.5gbe and SFP+ makes it very future-proof
  • Console port
  • Topton
  • i226v

cons

  • Expensive
  • Not a rack mountable design
  • Highest 10th gen CPU is still very close to the 11th gen (even slower single core!?)

New R86S-N Mini Router

Rs86s-n.png

Link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005792590190.html A even smaller router, that comes with a 3*2.5G ports and two 10G SFP+ ports as well as a 12th gen Alder Lake CPU. Configureable with either a Intel N100 or a Intel N305.

Intel N100 (5628, 1974 single) €442,63

Intel Core i3-N305 (10110, 2252 single) €623,02

pros

  • 2.5gbe and SFP+ makes it very future-proof
  • Small, low power consumption
  • i226v
  • Comes with 128GB MMC and 8GB ram, wi-fi 6

cons

  • Very expensive for minimal peformance gain