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We are in need of a faster Gateway. While our current Gateway (a [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+J4205+%40+1.50GHz&id=2877 Intel Pentium J4205] has an average passmark of 2442 (918 single) is more than powerful enough for our gigabit connection;  
We are in need of a faster Gateway. While our current Gateway (a [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+J4205+%40+1.50GHz&id=2877 Intel Pentium J4205] has an average passmark of 2442 (918 single) is more than powerful enough for our gigabit connection;  


just a single wireguard connection can easily spike the CPU usage to around 70%.  
just a single wireguard connection can easily spike the CPU usage to around 70%. We also want a smaller case (1U) so that we can have more space left in the rack.
 
 
We also want a smaller case (1U) so that we can have more space left in the rack.


= Notes =  
= Notes =  
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* Right now we have an UniFi Dream Machine Pro on loan to test if we like it.
* Right now we have an UniFi Dream Machine Pro on loan to test if we like it.
* CPUs are compared using cpubenchmark.net, cpus should be faster than what we have now.
* CPUs are compared using cpubenchmark.net, cpus should be faster than what we have now.
= Needs =
The following things are what our new gateway should definitely have:
* More than one nic (2 or more)
* Replaceable ram and storage
* 1U case (although for motherboards we can put together or own 1U case)
* Low power usage
* Intel NICs
* Minimal VGA output
* No locked down cloud bullshittery
* Ideally opnsense


= Options =
= Options =
=== Bkhd 1U Server Intel Atom Quad Core C3558 6 Lan 2 Sfp + 10G ===
=== Bkhd 1U Server Intel Atom Quad Core C3558 6 Lan 2 Sfp + 10G ===


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=== Topton Intel I226 4x2.5G 11th gen i3-1115G4 ===
=== Topton Intel I226 4x2.5G 11th gen i3-1115G4 ===
Link: https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005101103120.html
Link: https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005101103120.html


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Known to work nicely with proxmox and opnsense (I226 passthrough works without any issue).
Known to work nicely with proxmox and opnsense (I226 passthrough works without any issue).
Also comes with a NVME slot and replaceable ram.
Also comes with a NVME slot and replaceable ram.
[[File:UkGZn5w.png|thumb]]


<big>'''pros'''</big>
<big>'''pros'''</big>
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* Even the cheapest option has a faster single-core performance than our J4205 in multi
* Even the cheapest option has a faster single-core performance than our J4205 in multi
* Topton is a decent brand and their systems are often used for these applications.
* Topton is a decent brand and their systems are often used for these applications.
* Has 4x2.5G nics
* Has 4x2.5G nics  
 


<big>'''cons'''</big>
<big>'''cons'''</big>
* Runs a tad hot (imho - Melan)
* Runs a tad hot (imho - Melan)
* Not a rack mountable design, though system is fairly small itself.
* Not a rack mountable design, though system is fairly small itself.
* China
 
=== Topton New Soft Router ===
[[File:New-Soft-Router.png|thumb]]
Link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006009250441.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2nld
 
A small mini-router that has a plectra of ports making it future proof, the default config is with 4x Intel 2.5gbe ports and it can be configured with either a extra 4 ports or 2 SFP+ ports. Meaning we could very easily plug-in directly from the XGPON. CPU wise, it has the following options:
 
[https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-8145U+%40+2.10GHz&id=3349 Intel Core i3-8145U] (3809 passmark, 2124 single) €354,78
 
[https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-10210U+%40+1.60GHz&id=3542 Intel Core i5-10210u] (6249, 2188 single) €423,76
 
[https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-10510U+%40+1.80GHz&id=3549 Intel Core i7-10510U] (6667, 2317 single) €443,46
 
Both the i5 and i7 are suiteable for our needs.
 
<big>'''pros'''</big>
* 2.5gbe and SFP+ makes it very future-proof
* Console port
* Topton
* i226v
 
<big>'''cons'''</big>
* Expensive
* Not a rack mountable design
* Highest 10th gen CPU is still very close to the 11th gen (even slower single core!?)
 
== New R86S-N Mini Router ==
[[File:rs86s-n.png|thumb]]
Link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005792590190.html
A even smaller router, that comes with a 3*2.5G ports and two 10G SFP+ ports as well as a 12th gen Alder Lake CPU. Configureable with either a Intel N100 or a Intel N305.
 
[https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+N100&id=5157 Intel N100] (5628, 1974 single) €442,63
 
[https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-N305&id=5213 Intel Core i3-N305] (10110, 2252 single) €623,02
 
<big>'''pros'''</big>
* 2.5gbe and SFP+ makes it very future-proof
* Small, low power consumption
* i226v
* Comes with 128GB MMC and 8GB ram, wi-fi 6
 
<big>'''cons'''</big>
* Very expensive for minimal peformance gain

Latest revision as of 17:30, 12 October 2023

Summary

We are in need of a faster Gateway. While our current Gateway (a Intel Pentium J4205 has an average passmark of 2442 (918 single) is more than powerful enough for our gigabit connection;

just a single wireguard connection can easily spike the CPU usage to around 70%. We also want a smaller case (1U) so that we can have more space left in the rack.

Notes

  • an 11th gen Intel i3-1115G4 (6158 passmark, 2665 single) could easily do wireguard at ~2GB/s so ideally we want to get a system just as powerful or more powerful.
  • one option would be to move wireguard to Erratic instead, however that means that a remote reboot of Erratic will kill all connections.
  • Right now we have an UniFi Dream Machine Pro on loan to test if we like it.
  • CPUs are compared using cpubenchmark.net, cpus should be faster than what we have now.

Needs

The following things are what our new gateway should definitely have:

  • More than one nic (2 or more)
  • Replaceable ram and storage
  • 1U case (although for motherboards we can put together or own 1U case)
  • Low power usage
  • Intel NICs
  • Minimal VGA output
  • No locked down cloud bullshittery
  • Ideally opnsense

Options

Bkhd 1U Server Intel Atom Quad Core C3558 6 Lan 2 Sfp + 10G

A1z3XuI.png

Link: https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005238535931.html

Comes in a 1U case, can be configured with either a 4-core Intel C3558 (2417 passmark, 852 single) or a 8-core Intel C3758 (4750 passmark, 868 single). Has 6 lan ports and two SFP ports. See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3EMMYTdOYo

According to the Youtube video it idles around 20w and would spike up to 25w under load. (4-core version)

4-core price (w/8GB ram & 8GB eMMC): €502,27

8-core price (w/8GB ram & 8GB eMMC): €610,80

pros

  • Comes as a 1U case
  • Seems to come with a 12v Meanwell PSU build-in
  • Lots of lan ports
  • Has two SFP ports
  • The 8-core is about twice as fast as our J4205 in multi-threading

cons

  • Slower than than our J4205 single core wise.
  • The 4-core version is slower
  • China, so support could be icky (though we are a hackerspace)
  • No video out, only console.
  • Rather expensive. (Especially considering the performance)

Topton Intel I226 4x2.5G 11th gen i3-1115G4

Link: https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005101103120.html

Configurable as Core i3-1115G4 (6158 passmark, 2665 single), Core i5-1135G7 (9939 passmark, 2709 single), i7-1165G7 (10378 passmark, 2846 single). Priced are €237,69, €393,10, €466,23.

Known to work nicely with proxmox and opnsense (I226 passthrough works without any issue). Also comes with a NVME slot and replaceable ram.

UkGZn5w.png

pros

  • Good bang for buck.
  • 4 lan ports, console port and video out.
  • additional support for a 4/5G modem.
  • Even the cheapest option has a faster single-core performance than our J4205 in multi
  • Topton is a decent brand and their systems are often used for these applications.
  • Has 4x2.5G nics

cons

  • Runs a tad hot (imho - Melan)
  • Not a rack mountable design, though system is fairly small itself.

Topton New Soft Router

New-Soft-Router.png

Link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006009250441.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2nld

A small mini-router that has a plectra of ports making it future proof, the default config is with 4x Intel 2.5gbe ports and it can be configured with either a extra 4 ports or 2 SFP+ ports. Meaning we could very easily plug-in directly from the XGPON. CPU wise, it has the following options:

Intel Core i3-8145U (3809 passmark, 2124 single) €354,78

Intel Core i5-10210u (6249, 2188 single) €423,76

Intel Core i7-10510U (6667, 2317 single) €443,46

Both the i5 and i7 are suiteable for our needs.

pros

  • 2.5gbe and SFP+ makes it very future-proof
  • Console port
  • Topton
  • i226v

cons

  • Expensive
  • Not a rack mountable design
  • Highest 10th gen CPU is still very close to the 11th gen (even slower single core!?)

New R86S-N Mini Router

Rs86s-n.png

Link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005792590190.html A even smaller router, that comes with a 3*2.5G ports and two 10G SFP+ ports as well as a 12th gen Alder Lake CPU. Configureable with either a Intel N100 or a Intel N305.

Intel N100 (5628, 1974 single) €442,63

Intel Core i3-N305 (10110, 2252 single) €623,02

pros

  • 2.5gbe and SFP+ makes it very future-proof
  • Small, low power consumption
  • i226v
  • Comes with 128GB MMC and 8GB ram, wi-fi 6

cons

  • Very expensive for minimal peformance gain