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Melan and r3boot bought a new hypervisor (sporadic) which runs OPNsense. | |||
= Summary = | = Summary = | ||
We are in need of a faster Gateway. While our current Gateway (a [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+J4205+%40+1.50GHz&id=2877 Intel Pentium J4205] has an average passmark of 2442 (918 single) is more than powerful enough for our gigabit connection; | We are in need of a faster Gateway. While our current Gateway (a [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+J4205+%40+1.50GHz&id=2877 Intel Pentium J4205] has an average passmark of 2442 (918 single) is more than powerful enough for our gigabit connection; | ||
just a single wireguard connection can easily spike the CPU usage to around 70%. | just a single wireguard connection can easily spike the CPU usage to around 70%. We also want a smaller case (1U) so that we can have more space left in the rack. | ||
We also want a smaller case (1U) so that we can have more space left in the rack. | |||
= Notes = | = Notes = | ||
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* Right now we have an UniFi Dream Machine Pro on loan to test if we like it. | * Right now we have an UniFi Dream Machine Pro on loan to test if we like it. | ||
* CPUs are compared using cpubenchmark.net, cpus should be faster than what we have now. | * CPUs are compared using cpubenchmark.net, cpus should be faster than what we have now. | ||
= Needs = | |||
The following things are what our new gateway should definitely have: | |||
* More than one nic (2 or more) | |||
* Replaceable ram and storage | |||
* 1U case (although for motherboards we can put together or own 1U case) | |||
* Low power usage | |||
* Intel NICs | |||
* Minimal VGA output | |||
* No locked down cloud bullshittery | |||
* Ideally opnsense | |||
= Options = | = Options = | ||
=== Bkhd 1U Server Intel Atom Quad Core C3558 6 Lan 2 Sfp + 10G === | === Bkhd 1U Server Intel Atom Quad Core C3558 6 Lan 2 Sfp + 10G === | ||
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According to the Youtube video it idles around 20w and would spike up to 25w under load. (4-core version) | According to the Youtube video it idles around 20w and would spike up to 25w under load. (4-core version) | ||
4-core price (w/8GB ram & 8GB eMMC): €502,27 | |||
8-core price (w/8GB ram & 8GB eMMC): €610,80 | |||
<big>'''pros'''</big> | <big>'''pros'''</big> | ||
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* Lots of lan ports | * Lots of lan ports | ||
* Has two SFP ports | * Has two SFP ports | ||
* The 8-core is about twice as fast as our J4205 | * The 8-core is about twice as fast as our J4205 in multi-threading | ||
<big>'''cons'''</big> | <big>'''cons'''</big> | ||
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* China, so support could be icky (though we are a hackerspace) | * China, so support could be icky (though we are a hackerspace) | ||
* No video out, only console. | * No video out, only console. | ||
* Rather expensive. (Especially considering the performance) | |||
=== Topton Intel I226 4x2.5G 11th gen i3-1115G4 === | |||
Link: https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005101103120.html | |||
Configurable as [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-1115G4+%40+3.00GHz&id=3877 Core i3-1115G4] (6158 passmark, 2665 single), [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-1135G7+%40+2.40GHz&id=3830 Core i5-1135G7] (9939 passmark, 2709 single), [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-1165G7+%40+2.80GHz&id=3814 i7-1165G7] (10378 passmark, 2846 single). Priced are €237,69, €393,10, €466,23. | |||
Known to work nicely with proxmox and opnsense (I226 passthrough works without any issue). | |||
Also comes with a NVME slot and replaceable ram. | |||
[[File:UkGZn5w.png|thumb]] | |||
<big>'''pros'''</big> | |||
* Good bang for buck. | |||
* 4 lan ports, console port and video out. | |||
* additional support for a 4/5G modem. | |||
* Even the cheapest option has a faster single-core performance than our J4205 in multi | |||
* Topton is a decent brand and their systems are often used for these applications. | |||
* Has 4x2.5G nics | |||
<big>'''cons'''</big> | |||
* Runs a tad hot (imho - Melan) | |||
* Not a rack mountable design, though system is fairly small itself. | |||
=== Topton New Soft Router === | |||
[[File:New-Soft-Router.png|thumb]] | |||
Link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006009250441.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2nld | |||
A small mini-router that has a plectra of ports making it future proof, the default config is with 4x Intel 2.5gbe ports and it can be configured with either a extra 4 ports or 2 SFP+ ports. Meaning we could very easily plug-in directly from the XGPON. CPU wise, it has the following options: | |||
[https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-8145U+%40+2.10GHz&id=3349 Intel Core i3-8145U] (3809 passmark, 2124 single) €354,78 | |||
[https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-10210U+%40+1.60GHz&id=3542 Intel Core i5-10210u] (6249, 2188 single) €423,76 | |||
[https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-10510U+%40+1.80GHz&id=3549 Intel Core i7-10510U] (6667, 2317 single) €443,46 | |||
Both the i5 and i7 are suiteable for our needs. | |||
<big>'''pros'''</big> | |||
* 2.5gbe and SFP+ makes it very future-proof | |||
* Console port | |||
* Topton | |||
* i226v | |||
<big>'''cons'''</big> | |||
* Expensive | |||
* Not a rack mountable design | |||
* Highest 10th gen CPU is still very close to the 11th gen (even slower single core!?) | |||
== New R86S-N Mini Router == | |||
[[File:rs86s-n.png|thumb]] | |||
Link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005792590190.html | |||
A even smaller router, that comes with a 3*2.5G ports and two 10G SFP+ ports as well as a 12th gen Alder Lake CPU. Configureable with either a Intel N100 or a Intel N305. | |||
[https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+N100&id=5157 Intel N100] (5628, 1974 single) €442,63 | |||
[https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-N305&id=5213 Intel Core i3-N305] (10110, 2252 single) €623,02 | |||
<big>'''pros'''</big> | |||
* 2.5gbe and SFP+ makes it very future-proof | |||
* Small, low power consumption | |||
* i226v | |||
* Comes with 128GB MMC and 8GB ram, wi-fi 6 | |||
<big>'''cons'''</big> | |||
* Very expensive for minimal peformance gain |
Latest revision as of 17:57, 2 September 2024
done
Melan and r3boot bought a new hypervisor (sporadic) which runs OPNsense.
Summary
We are in need of a faster Gateway. While our current Gateway (a Intel Pentium J4205 has an average passmark of 2442 (918 single) is more than powerful enough for our gigabit connection;
just a single wireguard connection can easily spike the CPU usage to around 70%. We also want a smaller case (1U) so that we can have more space left in the rack.
Notes
- an 11th gen Intel i3-1115G4 (6158 passmark, 2665 single) could easily do wireguard at ~2GB/s so ideally we want to get a system just as powerful or more powerful.
- one option would be to move wireguard to Erratic instead, however that means that a remote reboot of Erratic will kill all connections.
- Right now we have an UniFi Dream Machine Pro on loan to test if we like it.
- CPUs are compared using cpubenchmark.net, cpus should be faster than what we have now.
Needs
The following things are what our new gateway should definitely have:
- More than one nic (2 or more)
- Replaceable ram and storage
- 1U case (although for motherboards we can put together or own 1U case)
- Low power usage
- Intel NICs
- Minimal VGA output
- No locked down cloud bullshittery
- Ideally opnsense
Options
Bkhd 1U Server Intel Atom Quad Core C3558 6 Lan 2 Sfp + 10G
Link: https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005238535931.html
Comes in a 1U case, can be configured with either a 4-core Intel C3558 (2417 passmark, 852 single) or a 8-core Intel C3758 (4750 passmark, 868 single). Has 6 lan ports and two SFP ports. See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3EMMYTdOYo
According to the Youtube video it idles around 20w and would spike up to 25w under load. (4-core version)
4-core price (w/8GB ram & 8GB eMMC): €502,27
8-core price (w/8GB ram & 8GB eMMC): €610,80
pros
- Comes as a 1U case
- Seems to come with a 12v Meanwell PSU build-in
- Lots of lan ports
- Has two SFP ports
- The 8-core is about twice as fast as our J4205 in multi-threading
cons
- Slower than than our J4205 single core wise.
- The 4-core version is slower
- China, so support could be icky (though we are a hackerspace)
- No video out, only console.
- Rather expensive. (Especially considering the performance)
Topton Intel I226 4x2.5G 11th gen i3-1115G4
Link: https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005101103120.html
Configurable as Core i3-1115G4 (6158 passmark, 2665 single), Core i5-1135G7 (9939 passmark, 2709 single), i7-1165G7 (10378 passmark, 2846 single). Priced are €237,69, €393,10, €466,23.
Known to work nicely with proxmox and opnsense (I226 passthrough works without any issue). Also comes with a NVME slot and replaceable ram.
pros
- Good bang for buck.
- 4 lan ports, console port and video out.
- additional support for a 4/5G modem.
- Even the cheapest option has a faster single-core performance than our J4205 in multi
- Topton is a decent brand and their systems are often used for these applications.
- Has 4x2.5G nics
cons
- Runs a tad hot (imho - Melan)
- Not a rack mountable design, though system is fairly small itself.
Topton New Soft Router
Link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006009250441.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2nld
A small mini-router that has a plectra of ports making it future proof, the default config is with 4x Intel 2.5gbe ports and it can be configured with either a extra 4 ports or 2 SFP+ ports. Meaning we could very easily plug-in directly from the XGPON. CPU wise, it has the following options:
Intel Core i3-8145U (3809 passmark, 2124 single) €354,78
Intel Core i5-10210u (6249, 2188 single) €423,76
Intel Core i7-10510U (6667, 2317 single) €443,46
Both the i5 and i7 are suiteable for our needs.
pros
- 2.5gbe and SFP+ makes it very future-proof
- Console port
- Topton
- i226v
cons
- Expensive
- Not a rack mountable design
- Highest 10th gen CPU is still very close to the 11th gen (even slower single core!?)
New R86S-N Mini Router
Link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005792590190.html A even smaller router, that comes with a 3*2.5G ports and two 10G SFP+ ports as well as a 12th gen Alder Lake CPU. Configureable with either a Intel N100 or a Intel N305.
Intel N100 (5628, 1974 single) €442,63
Intel Core i3-N305 (10110, 2252 single) €623,02
pros
- 2.5gbe and SFP+ makes it very future-proof
- Small, low power consumption
- i226v
- Comes with 128GB MMC and 8GB ram, wi-fi 6
cons
- Very expensive for minimal peformance gain