Location

Current

We are located at:

Vadaring 80 6702 EB Wageningen

See: http://g.co/maps/p5vse

New

So .. we are becoming homeless per 1-9-2013. This is a small list of leads we are poking;

Have been poked

Organisation	Poker	Status/result
FMT beheer	buZz
University	FwD	Juiste persoon gevonden, nog geen reactie.
Bewaakt&Bewoond	FwD	Hebben geen andere panden in Wageningen
Alvast beheer	buZz
Voorkomleegstand	buZz
Cultuurmakelaar	buZz	Adviseert SLAK te poken, voor het oude Unitas .. (zie ook Talk..)
Jelle (old farm/practiseplace thingy)	buZz
Mailinglist (own members, asked to look around and SPEAK UP)	buZz
general@hsnl Mailinglist	buZz
wurlug mailinglist	SmokeyD
Activast = eigenaar oude SNS pand, panden agro business park, etc.	SmokeyD
Woningstichting	FwD	gereageerd op Buurtseweg 3D, maar met algemene boodschap. Reactie: 22,1m² voor € 354/mnd.
Van Der Vorm vastgoed	FwD	Hebben alleen huizen, winkelpanden en garages. Geen korting of schappelijk tarief mogelijk.
VBC = eigenaar huidige pand	FwD	Huidige unit voor € 460/mnd ex btw.
Interim Vastgoedbeheer	laafwerpen	Diedenoort bekeken, erg bruikbare en betaalbare ruimte. Zie hieronder.
Idealis	FwD	"We hebben helaas geen woonruimte voor jullie beschikbaar."
Pieter Roza (architect)	SmokeyD	Hij gaat bij zijn bekenden in vastgoed/makelaar wereld rondvragen. Long shot maar we zien wel.
Ad Hoc	laafwerpen	Just former Halfords available for $too_expensive
Citadel	laafwerpen	Nothing available
HOD	laafwerpen	Only spaces available in Arnhem

Still to poke

• http://nl.linkedin.com/in/ericlangendoen .. stichting broed en thingyplaats
• Robbert Kamphuis?
• Eigenaar Dreijen? Is dat nog de WUR, of een anti kraak club, of een vastgoed ontwikkelaar. Daar staat vast veel leeg nog (Is nog van WUR - FwD)
• Binnen stuiteren op oude bodemkunde gebouw of LA13 (waar movie w een tijdje zat) en kijken of de anti kraak lui (via interim) ons aan ruimte willen helpen en een goed woordje doen voor ons bij Interim?
• wbvg
• gemeente

Diedenoort

Via Interim (via laafwerpen) we can probably get a space in the former Diedenoort building.

Status

Aspect	Status	Contact person
Cancel Bewaakt & Bewoond contract per august 15th	Suggested to B&B account manager	FwD
Negotiate content of new contract and agreement with Interim	Preparing remarks and talking points	FwD
Switch automatic payment from Bewaakt & Bewoond to Interim	...	Bjorn
Throw away old stuff from current space	...	Everyone
Packing up everything that needs to be moved	...	Everyone
Logistics: moving stuff to the new space	Cars have been offered by Sander2 and Theo	Everyone
Internet connection in new space	planning, negotiating with BIT	buZz
Wired and wireless internet to space and tenants	planning	buZz

Specs

• Bigger than our current space
• 220eu/month rent
• Lots of power sockets
• No own entrance, but 24/7 accessible
• Located here
• Patch panel in 19" rack on the 2nd floor, all rooms have their own UTP sockets
• We could put all our servers there
• No internet connection active, so we need to either move our BIT account of try to get SURFnet access
• Probably 7 to 10 other tenants (students) that we could supply internet access to, either wired or with our large collection of PoE access points
• We can start renting it "soon" (read: starting August)
• Unclear for how long we can rent it, but probably for quite a while as the 2nd phase of Mouterijnoort hasn't even begun yet. The Diedenoort building is on the lot for the 3rd phase.
• No smoking inside, but shelter on the courtyard for smokers

Questions and answers

Q: Can we use other spaces temporarily (for events (lectures, workshops, presentations))?
A: Yes, within reasonable limits: make sure we don't bother other tenants, don't ruin the building, don't cause trouble etc. And always in consultation with Interim

Q: Can we rent other spaces permanently if we can afford it?
A: Yes, this can be negotiated with the account manager.

Q: Do's and don'ts of the building
A: None really, just use common sense and obey the law.

Q: Noise (regarding other tenants, neighbours)
A: Shouldn't be a problem within reasonable limits. It's a former school building, and has all the characteristics one would expect.

Q: Lockable? (regarding valuable equipment)
A: Yes. We can get keys to the front door and the 2 doors leading to the space. Also, we can get locks fitted on the space doors with a knob on the inside so we can hook up mechanics (space lock).

Q: Lockable server room on 2nd floor? (regarding servers not being tampered with)
A: Yes

Q: AirCo in the server room?
A: Yes!

Q: How many people are allowed for a second viewing? And when? (soon!)
A: Not an issue anymore.

Q: Power included in rent?
A: Yes, within reason. If we start to use too much we'll have to pay up or cut back. It is preferred if we let Interim know in advance if we expect to exceed regular usage.

Q: How many groups are on the countless wall sockets? How many amps per group?
A: Plenty. There's a huge fusebox in the room.

Q: Available power in server room?
A: Yep, plenty.

Q: Cooking? BBQ? Deepfryer?
A: Ping cuisine shouldn't be a problem. Deepfrying and BBQ outside.

Q: Can we paint walls, drill in the wall etc, modifications to the space?
A: Yes, within reason: it needs to be fixable/repairable with ease. Any permanent modifications can be negotiated with Interim.

Q: Can we copy the key(s)? Can we play with the locks for automation?
A: Yes.

Q: Room for tenants available? (read: buZz)
A: Possibly, though not for whole families.

Q: Heating / cooling / ventilation?
A: All taken care of. There's some kind of sensor outside that makes sure the building's temperature stays fine.

Q: Is there a Fiber cable to the building, could we recycle it?
A: There is fiber, but it might only lead to other server rooms inside the building. Also, there might be a KPN-owned fiber inside. This needs to be looked into, as it might be more interesting than the ADSL we get sponsored from BIT.

Q: Water connection / bathrooms?
A: All present and working. Hot water not checked.

Q: Garbage collection?
A: Big container outside.

Bonus answers

A: We're very wanted to hook up an internet connection for the other tenants ASAP.

A: We can start the contract on any day.

A: Exit notification term is 28 days, and can be any day. In our current space the contract can end on the 1st or 15th of the month.

Disadvantages

• No guarantees on how long we can stay: 28 day cancellation term is all we know.
• Some tricky points in the "bruikleen overeenkomst" to be addressed in a chat with the account manager
• We'd have to clean the toilets ourselves
• No hot water spotted yet
• Lots of research to be done regarding wiring for LAN/internet

Pics of the space

Pics of the server room