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Vadaring 80
Churchillweg 68
6702 EB Wageningen
6706 AD  Wageningen


See: http://g.co/maps/p5vse
[https://www.google.nl/maps/preview#!q=Churchillweg+68%2C+6706+AD+Wageningen Here.]


== New ==
== Specs ==
 
* 220eu/month rent.
Bewaakt & Bewoond ended the agreement per 1-9-2013. This forced us to look for a new space, and we've found it. See the [[Moving_to_Diedenoort|project page]] for details, status and planning.
* Patch panel in 19" rack on the 2nd floor, all rooms have their own UTP sockets.
 
* ~10Mbit ADSL from BIT.
== Diedenoort ==
* 7 other tenants (students) that we supply internet access to.
 
* Unclear for how long we can rent it, but probably for quite a while as the [http://www.mouterijnoort.nl/dewoningen-plankaart.php 2nd phase of Mouterijnoort] hasn't even begun yet. The building is on the lot for the 3rd phase. Exit notification term is 28 days, and can be any day.
=== Status ===
See the project page for [[Moving_to_Diedenoort|moving to Diedenoort]]
 
=== Specs ===
* Bigger than our current space
* 220eu/month rent
* Lots of power sockets
* No own entrance, but 24/7 accessible
* Located [https://www.google.nl/maps/preview#!q=Churchillweg+68%2C+6706+AD+Wageningen here]
* Patch panel in 19" rack on the 2nd floor, all rooms have their own UTP sockets
* We could put all our servers there
* No internet connection active, so we need to either move our BIT account of try to get SURFnet access
* Probably 7 to 10 other tenants (students) that we could supply internet access to, either wired or with our large collection of PoE access points
* We can start renting it "soon" (read: starting August)
* Unclear for how long we can rent it, but probably for quite a while as the [http://www.mouterijnoort.nl/dewoningen-plankaart.php 2nd phase of Mouterijnoort] hasn't even begun yet. The Diedenoort building is on the lot for the 3rd phase.
* No smoking inside, but shelter on the courtyard for smokers
* No smoking inside, but shelter on the courtyard for smokers


=== Questions and answers ===
== Questions and answers ==
<b>Q:</b> Can we use other spaces temporarily (for events (lectures, workshops, presentations))?<br>
<b>Q:</b> Can we use other spaces temporarily (for events (lectures, workshops, presentations))?<br>
<b>A:</b> Yes, within reasonable limits: make sure we don't bother other tenants, don't ruin the building, don't cause trouble etc. And always in consultation with Interim
<b>A:</b> Yes, within reasonable limits: make sure we don't bother other tenants, don't ruin the building, don't cause trouble etc. And always in consultation with Interim
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<b>Q:</b> Can we rent other spaces permanently if we can afford it?<br>
<b>Q:</b> Can we rent other spaces permanently if we can afford it?<br>
<b>A:</b> Yes, this can be negotiated with the account manager.
<b>A:</b> Yes, this can be negotiated with the account manager.
<b>Q:</b> Do's and don'ts of the building<br>
<b>A:</b> None really, just use common sense and obey the law.


<b>Q:</b> Noise (regarding other tenants, neighbours)<br>
<b>Q:</b> Noise (regarding other tenants, neighbours)<br>
<b>A:</b> Shouldn't be a problem within reasonable limits. It's a former school building, and has all the characteristics one would expect.
<b>A:</b> Keep it down as our neighbours are right next door and we have no double glassing in the windows.


<b>Q:</b> Lockable? (regarding valuable equipment)<br>
<b>Q:</b> Lockable? (regarding valuable equipment)<br>
<b>A:</b> Yes. We can get keys to the front door and the 2 doors leading to the space. Also, we can get locks fitted on the space doors with a knob on the inside so we can hook up mechanics ([[Spacelock|space lock]]).
<b>A:</b> Yes. We have keys to the front door and the 2 doors leading to the space. Future plan: ([[Spacelock|space lock]]). Server room has a separate lock, key is on the coat hanger.
 
<b>Q:</b> Lockable server room on 2nd floor? (regarding servers not being tampered with)<br>
<b>A:</b> Yes


<b>Q:</b> AirCo in the server room?<br>
<b>Q:</b> AirCo in the server room?<br>
<b>A:</b> Yes!
<b>A:</b> Yes!
<b>Q:</b> How many people are allowed for a second viewing? And when? (soon!)<br>
<b>A:</b> Not an issue anymore.


<b>Q:</b> Power included in rent?<br>
<b>Q:</b> Power included in rent?<br>
<b>A:</b> Yes, within reason. If we start to use too much we'll have to pay up or cut back. It is preferred if we let Interim know in advance if we expect to exceed regular usage.
<b>A:</b> Yes, within reason. If we start to use too much we'll have to pay up or cut back. It is preferred if we let Interim know in advance if we expect to exceed regular usage.
<b>Q:</b> How many groups are on the countless wall sockets? How many amps per group?<br>
<b>A:</b> Plenty. There's a huge fusebox in the room.
<b>Q:</b> Available power in server room?<br>
<b>A:</b> Yep, plenty.


<b>Q:</b> Cooking? BBQ? Deepfryer?<br>
<b>Q:</b> Cooking? BBQ? Deepfryer?<br>
<b>A:</b> Ping cuisine shouldn't be a problem. Deepfrying and BBQ outside.
<b>A:</b> Ping cuisine is no problem. Deepfrying and BBQ outside.


<b>Q:</b> Can we paint walls, drill in the wall etc, modifications to the space?<br>
<b>Q:</b> Can we paint walls, drill in the wall etc, modifications to the space?<br>
<b>A:</b> Yes, within reason: it needs to be fixable/repairable with ease. Any permanent modifications can be negotiated with Interim.
<b>A:</b> Yes, within reason: it needs to be fixable/repairable with ease. Any permanent modifications can be negotiated with Interim.
<b>Q:</b> Can we copy the key(s)? Can we play with the locks for automation?<br>
<b>A:</b> Yes.
<b>Q:</b> Room for tenants available? (read: buZz)<br>
<b>A:</b> Possibly, though not for whole families.


<b>Q:</b> Heating / cooling / ventilation?<br>
<b>Q:</b> Heating / cooling / ventilation?<br>
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<b>Q:</b> Water connection / bathrooms?<br>
<b>Q:</b> Water connection / bathrooms?<br>
<b>A:</b> All present and working. Hot water not checked.
<b>A:</b> All present and working in the bloemschik room.


<b>Q:</b> Garbage collection?<br>
<b>Q:</b> Garbage collection?<br>
<b>A:</b> Big container outside.
<b>A:</b> Big container outside.


=== Bonus answers ===
== Pics of the space ==
<b>A:</b> We're very wanted to hook up an internet connection for the other tenants ASAP.
 
<b>A:</b> We can start the contract on any day.
 
<b>A:</b> Exit notification term is 28 days, and can be any day. In our current space the contract can end on the 1st or 15th of the month.
 
=== SURFNet Requirements ===
Spoke to Jasper Distelbroek(?) at SURFnet:
Would need to be affiliated with some element at Wageningen University - the Diedenoort facility is likely connected by a 'branch' to SURFnet through the university facilities.
 
Before anything could be organised, because SURFnet is picky about NWO-funded facilities, would need to mail  jasper@surfnet.nl with:
 
* A description of the organisation using SURFnet (Website?)
* Who to contact about Financial+Organisational matters
* How many people are involved
* Goals and aims of the organisation
* Any connections with any NWO-funded organisations
 
In order to get things organised before mid-August, he informed me it's probably a good idea to go via WUR.
 
=== Disadvantages ===
* No guarantees on how long we can stay: 28 day cancellation term is all we know.
* Some tricky points in the "bruikleen overeenkomst" to be addressed in a chat with the account manager
* We'd have to clean the toilets ourselves
* No hot water spotted yet
* Lots of research to be done regarding wiring for LAN/internet
 
=== Pics of the space ===


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=== Pics of the server room ===
== Pics of the server room ==
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== Leads we have poked ==
== Leads for future use ==
 
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Organisation !! Poker !! Status/result
|-
| FMT beheer || buZz ||
|-
| University || FwD || Juiste persoon gevonden, nog geen reactie.
|-
| Bewaakt&Bewoond || FwD || Hebben geen andere panden in Wageningen
|-
| Alvast beheer || buZz ||
|-
| Voorkomleegstand || buZz ||
|-
| Cultuurmakelaar || buZz || Adviseert SLAK te poken, voor het oude Unitas .. (zie ook [[Talk:Location|Talk]]..)
|-
| Jelle (old farm/practiseplace thingy) || buZz ||
|-
| Mailinglist (own members, asked to look around and SPEAK UP) || buZz ||
|-
| general@hsnl Mailinglist || buZz ||
|-
| wurlug mailinglist || SmokeyD ||
|-
| Activast = eigenaar oude SNS pand, panden agro business park, etc. || SmokeyD ||
|-
| Woningstichting || FwD || gereageerd op [http://www.de-woningstichting.nl/1/Welkom-bij-de-Woningstichting/Content-Helpers/Woningbezit/Buurtseweg/Buurtseweg-3--D.html?highlight= Buurtseweg 3D], maar met algemene boodschap. Reactie: 22,1m² voor € 354/mnd.
|-
| Van Der Vorm vastgoed || FwD || Hebben alleen huizen, winkelpanden en garages. Geen korting of schappelijk tarief mogelijk.
|-
| VBC = eigenaar huidige pand || FwD || Huidige unit voor € 460/mnd ex btw.
|-
| Interim Vastgoedbeheer || laafwerpen || Diedenoort bekeken, erg bruikbare en betaalbare ruimte. Zie hieronder.
|-
| Idealis || FwD || "We hebben helaas geen woonruimte voor jullie beschikbaar."
|-
| Pieter Roza (architect) || SmokeyD ||Hij gaat bij zijn bekenden in vastgoed/makelaar wereld rondvragen. Long shot maar we zien wel.
|-
| Ad Hoc || laafwerpen || Just former Halfords available for $too_expensive
|-
| Citadel || laafwerpen || Nothing available
|-
| HOD || laafwerpen || Only spaces available in Arnhem
|}


== Unpoked leads ==
* FMT beheer
* University (Vastgoed en Huisvesting, sub-department of FB)
* Bewaakt & Bewoond
* Alvast beheer
* Voorkomleegstand
* Cultuurmakelaar
* Jelle (old farm/practiseplace thingy)
* Mailinglist (own members)
* general@hsnl Mailinglist
* wurlug mailinglist
* Activast = eigenaar oude SNS pand, panden agro business park, etc.
* Woningstichting
* Van Der Vorm vastgoed
* VBC
* Interim Vastgoedbeheer
* Idealis
* Pieter Roza (architect)
* Ad Hoc
* Citadel
* HOD
* http://nl.linkedin.com/in/ericlangendoen .. stichting broed en thingyplaats
* http://nl.linkedin.com/in/ericlangendoen .. stichting broed en thingyplaats
* Robbert Kamphuis?
* Robbert Kamphuis
* Eigenaar Dreijen? Is dat nog de WUR, of een anti kraak club, of een vastgoed ontwikkelaar. Daar staat vast veel leeg nog (Is nog van WUR - FwD)
* Binnen stuiteren op oude bodemkunde gebouw of LA13 (waar movie w een tijdje zat) en kijken of de anti kraak lui (via interim) ons aan ruimte willen helpen en een goed woordje doen voor ons bij Interim?
* wbvg
* wbvg
* gemeente
* gemeente

Revision as of 21:34, 1 September 2013

Current

We are located at:

Churchillweg 68 6706 AD Wageningen

Here.

Specs

  • 220eu/month rent.
  • Patch panel in 19" rack on the 2nd floor, all rooms have their own UTP sockets.
  • ~10Mbit ADSL from BIT.
  • 7 other tenants (students) that we supply internet access to.
  • Unclear for how long we can rent it, but probably for quite a while as the 2nd phase of Mouterijnoort hasn't even begun yet. The building is on the lot for the 3rd phase. Exit notification term is 28 days, and can be any day.
  • No smoking inside, but shelter on the courtyard for smokers

Questions and answers

Q: Can we use other spaces temporarily (for events (lectures, workshops, presentations))?
A: Yes, within reasonable limits: make sure we don't bother other tenants, don't ruin the building, don't cause trouble etc. And always in consultation with Interim

Q: Can we rent other spaces permanently if we can afford it?
A: Yes, this can be negotiated with the account manager.

Q: Noise (regarding other tenants, neighbours)
A: Keep it down as our neighbours are right next door and we have no double glassing in the windows.

Q: Lockable? (regarding valuable equipment)
A: Yes. We have keys to the front door and the 2 doors leading to the space. Future plan: (space lock). Server room has a separate lock, key is on the coat hanger.

Q: AirCo in the server room?
A: Yes!

Q: Power included in rent?
A: Yes, within reason. If we start to use too much we'll have to pay up or cut back. It is preferred if we let Interim know in advance if we expect to exceed regular usage.

Q: Cooking? BBQ? Deepfryer?
A: Ping cuisine is no problem. Deepfrying and BBQ outside.

Q: Can we paint walls, drill in the wall etc, modifications to the space?
A: Yes, within reason: it needs to be fixable/repairable with ease. Any permanent modifications can be negotiated with Interim.

Q: Heating / cooling / ventilation?
A: All taken care of. There's some kind of sensor outside that makes sure the building's temperature stays fine.

Q: Is there a Fiber cable to the building, could we recycle it?
A: There is fiber, but it might only lead to other server rooms inside the building. Also, there might be a KPN-owned fiber inside. This needs to be looked into, as it might be more interesting than the ADSL we get sponsored from BIT.

Q: Water connection / bathrooms?
A: All present and working in the bloemschik room.

Q: Garbage collection?
A: Big container outside.

Pics of the space

P1050164.JPGP1050165.JPGP1050166.JPGP1050167.JPGP1050168.JPGP1050170.JPGP1050169.JPGP1050171.JPGP1050172.JPG

Pics of the server room

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Leads for future use

  • FMT beheer
  • University (Vastgoed en Huisvesting, sub-department of FB)
  • Bewaakt & Bewoond
  • Alvast beheer
  • Voorkomleegstand
  • Cultuurmakelaar
  • Jelle (old farm/practiseplace thingy)
  • Mailinglist (own members)
  • general@hsnl Mailinglist
  • wurlug mailinglist
  • Activast = eigenaar oude SNS pand, panden agro business park, etc.
  • Woningstichting
  • Van Der Vorm vastgoed
  • VBC
  • Interim Vastgoedbeheer
  • Idealis
  • Pieter Roza (architect)
  • Ad Hoc
  • Citadel
  • HOD
  • http://nl.linkedin.com/in/ericlangendoen .. stichting broed en thingyplaats
  • Robbert Kamphuis
  • wbvg
  • gemeente
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